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Level 24 Chipist
MelonadeM
post #235221 ::
2026.03.18 8:09am :: edit 2026.03.20 10:07am
SweatyNoodle, maxi0222, agargara, cyclar2, Da Flarf, Luigi64, Super_Femicom, damifortune, Collidy and retrokid104 liēkd this
SweatyNoodle, maxi0222, agargara, cyclar2, Da Flarf, Luigi64, Super_Femicom, damifortune, Collidy and retrokid104 liēkd this
Under advice from agargara I have made a new thread instead of continuing in this thread.
Super Mario Paint is a free modern cross-platform sequencer, available here that's inspired by the composing tool of Mario Paint and is developed as a modern and cross-platform implementation of Mario Paint Composer and Advanced Mario Paint, both ancient tools no longer maintained.
Compared to Mario Pants, it adds:
Accepted submission types: *.txt (for single songs) or *.zip (for arrangements, must have all song .txt's plus arrangement .txt)
Note: Indeed, Super Mario Paint does support different sound fonts, however they have to be formatted in a specific way for the tool to work, and I also believe that using a custom sound font defeats the purpose of a format like this, as then you might as well just have a general sequencing format.
Therefore I propose no custom soundfonts - only the base sound set (called soundset3.sf2, embedded within the .jar file).
Although already suggested about 12 years ago, linked in the thread above, where the consensus at the time was that there was no need for such a format, we have had a Mario Pants Extended format now, which extends the song limit (but adds no other features, think of it like vanilla doom limits vs vanilla doom limit-removing source ports), we have the Moai and Jummbox formats now as well, which fill a similar niche. (Side suggestion: "Sequencist" class for formats that are primarily accessed via sequencing only?)
The usability of Super Mario Paint is similar to FL Studio - you use your left click to input notes, right click to delete notes, you have a "VOLUME CONTROL" which controls the volume for all the notes above the bar, with the only notable difference being that you press the shift/control key to add sharp/flat notes respectively. There is a manual provided on a Google Docs page that goes into detail about specific features as well.
I would love to know everyone else's thoughts on this, if such a format is wanted 12 years later or if the community reaches the same decision as more than a decade ago.
EDIT: In a later reply, I have made 3 potential sets of icons. Of these it seems like the Fire Flower one was the most popular and was my personal favourite. You can find a link to these here, however I also embedded them (they're hosted on my website storage at the moment, this will be temporary until either the format is added to BotB or until it is decided we don't want the format after all).
Super Mario Paint is a free modern cross-platform sequencer, available here that's inspired by the composing tool of Mario Paint and is developed as a modern and cross-platform implementation of Mario Paint Composer and Advanced Mario Paint, both ancient tools no longer maintained.
Compared to Mario Pants, it adds:
- Accidentals for notes, allowing for sharp notes
- A whole set of new sounds not found in Mario Paint
- An arranger mode that allows the user to sequence multiple songs in order similar to OpenMPT patterns
- Custom time signatures
- Expanded note polyphony and note range
Accepted submission types: *.txt (for single songs) or *.zip (for arrangements, must have all song .txt's plus arrangement .txt)
Note: Indeed, Super Mario Paint does support different sound fonts, however they have to be formatted in a specific way for the tool to work, and I also believe that using a custom sound font defeats the purpose of a format like this, as then you might as well just have a general sequencing format.
Therefore I propose no custom soundfonts - only the base sound set (called soundset3.sf2, embedded within the .jar file).
Although already suggested about 12 years ago, linked in the thread above, where the consensus at the time was that there was no need for such a format, we have had a Mario Pants Extended format now, which extends the song limit (but adds no other features, think of it like vanilla doom limits vs vanilla doom limit-removing source ports), we have the Moai and Jummbox formats now as well, which fill a similar niche. (Side suggestion: "Sequencist" class for formats that are primarily accessed via sequencing only?)
The usability of Super Mario Paint is similar to FL Studio - you use your left click to input notes, right click to delete notes, you have a "VOLUME CONTROL" which controls the volume for all the notes above the bar, with the only notable difference being that you press the shift/control key to add sharp/flat notes respectively. There is a manual provided on a Google Docs page that goes into detail about specific features as well.
I would love to know everyone else's thoughts on this, if such a format is wanted 12 years later or if the community reaches the same decision as more than a decade ago.
EDIT: In a later reply, I have made 3 potential sets of icons. Of these it seems like the Fire Flower one was the most popular and was my personal favourite. You can find a link to these here, however I also embedded them (they're hosted on my website storage at the moment, this will be temporary until either the format is added to BotB or until it is decided we don't want the format after all).






