A dev by the name of Lost Robot has made a DAW called Septabee, and the sound is just amazingly right on BotB's level!
If you're the kinda person who likes awesome and efficient but weird music software then give this DAW a shot!
https://septabee.nekoweb.org/

Lost Robot has also made a tutorial for getting around the DAW, check it out at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW8Z98pXuSE&t=2042s

And you can also join the Discord from the video description. Show any love you can by donating something to the dev to help them get a home and to keep making this awesome DAW!

NO MACOS??? aw mannnnnnn
This looks very cool but damn you apple

By pure chance appeared on my YouTube feed. Looks very interesting!

i opened it and it crashed immediately (linux mint) ymmv

I will hate my MacOs so hard when we have our first septabee battle

I've had a ton of fun messing around with it, and I appreciate that the keybinds show up when I hover over stuff.

this program is extremely swag. i think everyone should try it out because you are missing out on such a fun time

this is pure, unfiltered joy and whimsy in daw form

The interconnected circles reminds me of the Reactable

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It's more abstract and visually impressive than Bespoke (geometrically that is; the use of color is confusing here), but also seems to have a steeper learning curve. Worth following.

I tried to load it with wine on Mac it worked

That is the most goofy and non-mainstream website I've ever visited

That thing makes me feel like i need to download digicharat.pk3

I just wrote some paragraphs about some negative feelings I have surrounding this software. it's been two months without mention of a source release, and said software cannot run on my machine without far-too-slow emulation, so I have only watched others use it. I pussied out of posting them after reading Lost Robot's patreon bio because it doesn't feel right using all that loaded language to go down on someone with a background like theirs, and I really don't mean to attack them, I just strongly believe this release model is wrong. basically what I was saying is that, assuming the developer really does plan on not releasing code, ever:

1. FREEWARE = BAD FOR MANY REASONS

2. GATEKEEPING SOMETHING WITH THIS MUCH POTENTIAL IS KINDA SELFISH IMMA BE REAL WITH YOU

3. WHEN I SEE PROMISING SOFTWARE IN AN ERA OF OPEN SOURCE, BUT LEARN IT IS FREEWARE, I FEEL LIKE I AM BEING KICKED IN THE TEETH

4. I AM ONLY WRITING THIS BECAUSE I FEEL POWERLESS AND THESE THOUGHTS GENUINELY EAT ME UP INSIDE FOR DAYS

5. I AM NOT INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THE DEVELOPER BUT DAMN IF THIS REALLY IS MEANT TO BE FREEWARE I WANT TO CRY

I hope you can read this as me sharing my repulsion to freeware, instead of an attack on the developer, who I don't know the intentions of.

i think i too would be wary of releasing the source code to my labor of love of several thousand hours of research and development to the selfish, ungrateful masses who would just love to "improve" my software with Claude®, file off the serial numbers and claim it as their own

that's the thing, claude can kinda just reverse engineer everything down to app store-ready source code in like, a day. and that's not even considering that it can make a real non-decompiled clone in an even shorter time. keeping the code to yourself doesn't do you any good anymore. you shouldn't actively make your app worse because of "big scary ai steal it oh no". even if it's a huge labor of love, I just can't see the reason to hold onto the code if you're giving it away free of charge. that's mean and for poopy heads.

ok, so if Claude® can reverse engineer the source code to a useful degree then you can just do that. right?

I guess? I'd really rather just run the app straight instead of having to jump through all those hoops though. the whole thing just leaves a bad taste in my mouth

I actually agree with Luigi64 here. Software can be open source and still benefit the creator. I have paid and continue to pay for a lot of open source software to support the developer, while still compiling the software myself and tweaking it to my liking. From my perspective it's a win win situation, because in those cases I'd have never been able to build and run it on my arm linux computer without the source code and I'd have never supported the project. Both sides lose without the source being available.

(In the case of freeware I just use channels like patreon or github sponsors to support developers)

I also make my bug reports more useful using the source code, because I can compile a debug build, set breakpoints and try my very best to diagnose an issue before reporting it.

Also if you let the "selfish ungrateful masses" of the world dictate every move you make you are inevitably limiting how selfless you can be yourself. I'd rather be the guy that can let the world have nice things than point my finger at a few bad apples all day.

Lost Robot is a great dev who has contributed a lot to open source software and who I have a lot of respect for. I respect his decision and I understand there are genuine tradeoffs to releasing source code. After taking all observable factors into consideration I still don't agree with his decision though.

Can it Mobile?

unfortunately not. it's not built for mobile CPUs

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