What I Know
The format will be HTML5
The 1st one will take place during SCVI voting
Entry collaborations feature is necessary

What I Don't Know
Should it be 48 hours? A week? Dunno.
The theme/rules
How to display multiple botbrs on single entry

Ludum Dare BotB Edition

You can also set the OHB to be a 2HB for game jams if you wanna do Glorious Trainwrecks BotB Edition too

I think a week is good. This way it's short enough to be a challenge but not short to the point of infeasibility.

This is the best news I've ever read on this site!

I may get into this =O

I AM VERY AFRAID

I would participate, but HTML5 :c

and I don't have HTML5 module for GameMaker Studio yet

and too lazy to set up enchant.js properly

this is a very good idea and i will do it

neat, will it have a size-limit rule/extraformat or will it be anything-goes?

ohhh boy here we go

Yes, file size limit is a concern. I'm guessing the only thing to really consider is game assets like audio and graphics. So somewhere between 7.5 and 25mb?

Stencyl left me behind a couple of years ago because it now requires Java 8 and thus Mac OS X 10.9 (ironically, based off of the way the utensil was going, I was already losing interest), and I have no interest in GameMaker these days...

I will probably contribute in my most traditional role: as a musician. However, track counts are probably going to be limited for memory and time reasons.

Necro-comeback
I like this idea! :D but i have no idea how to code, i can defenly do the art?

Hi ui!!

i'm not too fond of the format being html5 (or at least every game jam being restricted to html5)
maybe there could be different game jams with different formats (some html5, some c#, some asm maybe????????????)
maybe there could be more general "game" format and the limitation should be in the bitpack
those are just suggestions though, game jams would be a great addition to botb and im glad this will exist!

The issue with posting compiled programs is the potential of spreading malware through them. HTML5 doesn't really have this problem (afaik JS doesn't mess with your system?) and the source for the programs will be readily available for everyone to see.

I like the idea of game jams btw, I should git gud and enter one of these.

This might be my incentive to finally make the BotB game I've had rolling around my head for years.

rule: source code must be available and included with the entry
ta-da problems solved

Doesn't matter, a clever / malicious botbr could compile a version with malware but still provide the non-infected source code. When presented with both, users think "Oh they provided the source, the executable MUST be safe!! ^O^" and now their boot sector is in the 8th circle of hell.

HTML5 is a great, and really the only format for this to be under. There's so many great web frameworks (if we're allowed to use em) for programming games, and javascript is such a versatile language for this sort of thing even without a framework.

hm, ive only ever used game maker and unity; prehaps i should learn html5 now?

game maker studio has html5 module

this is an interesting development.... guess it would make a good time to be a mouldy noob at another thing :p

couldn't you just do forced virus/malware scans on all the entries

like before people are even able to download them

Wayyyy too much work for this sort of thing.

(redacted lol)

also afaik unity exports html5, correct me if im wrong

yay gamejams

I'm open to trying different platforms, but I think sticking to html5 as the single platform this go around will help keep things a bit simpler.

We could have a different one another time for, say, 8bit consoles, but I think that would drastically reduce participation.

maybe pico-8 could be a good format candidate one day?

http://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php

Chip, I like that idea a very lot.

Pico-8 is sadly not free. For me, personally, I just can't be bothered to buy this kind of stuff these days (then again, I never really was a fan: the only utensil that I ever got was back in 2005 with Harmony Assistant, and I mainly use it for ripping soundfont samples these days).

I would say just crack it but promoting piracy is bad.

Welp, time to install Construct 2 again, despite it being kinda... slow.

why not just regular Game Maker : Studio?
it's free, you don't have to be a programming wizard to participate, ect

Game Maker: Studio is not free. :(

the longest single game game jam ive ever done was probably 2 hours lol

>expanding on what Jimmyoshi said
To be specific, GameMaker: Studio with the ability to make HTML5 games is not free. However, one is still free to make Windows games with a GM:Studio splash screen on it.

obv this alienates those that don't use Windows though :x

>easyname
GLORIOUS TRAINWRECKS REPRESENT!

I bought the full version of Construct2, spent hours and hours watching tutorials and reading manuals, and then some stuff happened in my life and I lost all motivation so now I'm going to have to relearn it all!

My only complete game, Nine Pixel Game, was the result of a game jam. I attempted to produce a sequel for another game jam and cancelled it because of terrible coding.

Hey, SCVI voting is coming up. Any further development on the game jam?

Too bad we don't have factions yet. Likely best to coordinate in IRC for team-alts.

Cool!

Sorry I didn't post on this sooner. With the final extension of SC6, I was thinking that the 3rd & 4th of September would be the ideal weekend. But then I was second guessing myself; should it wait until after the major? Don't know.

I'm pretty sure I know how to handle multiple BotBrs on an entry and have all points/boons distributed equally between said entry's participants. This isn't really a "clan" implementation as it would be on a per entry basis, but each involved BotBr would have a single assigned point type/class. Codist, Grafxicist, Mixist/Chipist etc.

I do have a theme I want to do tho.

Requesting .SWF as an official entry format. Many people are already familiar with Flash, it's a simple web-based format, could be used for gamejams and also for stuff like animation OHBs. I imagine it would have some potential. What do you think guys?

I think that sounds like a good idea

swf is obsolete (and not the good kind like our favorite chips)

commodore amiga demos are obsolete too; and i frequent those a lot

edit: this is swf and is good like my favorite chip; https://www.facebook.com/jkbgames

pls no flash let it die already

Doesn't Flash export to HTML5 these days? Or are there major limits on what's supported via that?

I suppose now's the best time to finally learn WebGL.

> learn java
> make a NES emulator for browser
> profit

yeah i checked flash does export to html5 canvas

Batari Basic Atari 2600 jam when?

Lemme just say that the weekend of 3 and 4 September is when PAX West is going on, so that might not be the greatest weekend ever for a game jam. I dunno how many BotBrs are going to PAX, but it might be a few (including this one).

I put some time in on getting a local dev space but apache 2.4 is being a butthole about symlinks.

Hoping to get the work done needed for this done during the week.

Tentatively, thinking the 48 hour window will be 4pm PST Friday - 4pm PST Sunday.

ok, new job is kicking my ass

i might be able to get the stuff done i need to tomorrow night
but i'd rather do a good job getting this right
and promote it a full week leading up to it

so now i'm thinking Sept. 16th-18th
which is still technically SC6 voting period

YES PERFECT TIMING

Also congrats on your new job \o/

But wait, doesn't the SC6 voting period end on Sept. 11th?

http://i.imgur.com/XIx9FBi.png

@Jimmyoshi hahahha maths! I don't need them, the cornputer does it! Alright, yes, screw running a game jam while people need to be voting on 200 tracks.

damn damn damn :( neeeeeed gamejam now pls

Keen to see/join this, whatever the time frame

https://www.humblebundle.com/gamemaker-bundle

Game Maker Studio's HTML5 module is on sale for less than $15!!

Chipping in:

I don't have Flash installed, Flash is completely unnecessary these days aside from Flash game sites, and Flash isn't a part of HTML5, so that'd have to be a different battle.

I would definitely be keen for game-making 1hcs... or 2hcs, if that's what Glorious Trainwrecks uses then I would trust the experts on Quality Game Making™.

There's quite a few here who can code in QBASIC, and it's a decent target for a 1hc as we found out. General DOS could actually be quite fun, come to think of it, the rule is "it must run in DOSBox" of course.

For HTML5, the only targets we care about are Firefox and Chrome. (That's right, Safari, you're inferior. Go sit in the corner. Right where your Airpods belong.) Ideally you'd want to make it work on both. But I've realised that it's probably easier to just have both installed.

Although there are some obscureish Linux distros (CRUX I'm looking at you) where Chromium refuses to work at all. Considering I have at least one computer which doesn't use CRUX, and if you're really stuck then Wine should work, this should not be a problem.

As for the filesize limit, my recommendation is to work out how big a Unity export is, and if it's not too big then add a few MB of headroom. Of course, the alternative is to cap it at 1MB and encourage people to code an engine properly - after all, you've got a whole week, and if I can code a PS1 game in 3 days then you can probably code a fairly simple HTML5 one in a week.

But yeah, after reading the posts, HTML5 is definitely the right format to use for the first game jam.