Halp! My points are b0rked. 0____x
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Level 28 Renderist
Slimeball
 
 
 
post #20149 :: 2012.09.30 11:00pm :: edit 2012.09.30 11:48pm ::
My points at the moment of writing this post:

Chipist 4178
OHCist 845
Criticist 520
Hostist 520
Mixist 391
Taggist 245
Pixelist 225
Playa 130
Grafxicist 85
Mappist 34
Samplist 15

total 5104

4178+845+520+520+391+245+225+130+85+34+15=7188

Either my chipist points or my total points are wrong.

I did get about 3000 points for summer chip. I don't know though if I was supposed to get that many boons or not.

EDIT: Looks like I'm not the only one! mootbooxle and kfaraday (And possibly everyone else who participated in summer chip) also have b0rked points! x_____0
 
 
Level 30 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #20166 :: 2012.10.01 1:01pm ::
  
  Chip Champion and Slimeball liēkd this
Alright, manually ran a couple scripts to update points totals and append new trophy data. :D/
 
 
Level 16 OHCist
Soiled Bargains
 
 
post #20184 :: 2012.10.01 7:05pm :: edit 2012.10.01 7:05pm ::
The amount of points people are getting from SCII seem insane to me. Could this be happening again, or is this normal for a major chip compo?
 
 
Level 30 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #20185 :: 2012.10.01 7:08pm ::
No. The previous mistake had no tally whatsoever. It gave out bonus points based on order of submission. The more entries in a battle the bigger the point pool for bonuses become.
 
 
Level 16 OHCist
Soiled Bargains
 
 
post #20186 :: 2012.10.01 7:17pm :: edit 2012.10.01 7:22pm ::
Huh, neat. I guess I don't remember any level-up madness from Winter Chip VII (the biggest battle ever with 157 entries).
 
 
Level 22 Playa
xterm
 
 
 
post #20195 :: 2012.10.02 2:57am ::
this might deserve a closer look. it does seem like the amount of points given out for SC2 was disproportionately large... or possibly done multiple times?

strobe got nearly 10000 points, for instance, which would be enough to bring him to level 18(!!!) if he had been a n00b before the compo. of course, he did have a lot of high-placing entries, but it still seems out of proportion somehow...?

also strangely, I think KungFuFurby jumped something like 6 levels, but he's a mixist now - although I'm not 100% sure what he was before the SC2 tally, his current point distribution seems mathematically unlikely... unless some of the SC formats grant mixist points?
 
 
Level 24 Chipist
Interrobang Pie
 
 
 
post #20196 :: 2012.10.02 3:16am ::
Don't the xK module formats give Mixist points?
 
 
Level 31 Chipist
Strobe
 
 
 
post #20197 :: 2012.10.02 3:18am ::
  
  kleeder, Soiled Bargains, puke7, Interrobang Pie and Slimeball liēkd this
There is nothing wrong with the SC2 Point distribution!
NOTHING AT ALL! Now move along.

*Disclaimer: This message is biased as hell*
 
 
Level 31 chipist
Chip Champion
 
 
 
post #20201 :: 2012.10.02 12:32pm ::
pretty sure 64k gave mixists
 
 
Level 30 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #20202 :: 2012.10.02 12:49pm ::
  
  Slimeball liēkd this
alright, dug up these digits --

"BonusPntsReport":{
"kidThunder":37,
"rainwarrior":37,
"IroncladPhazon":74,
"Beard":74,
"cce":74,
"ant1":74,
"michu":111,
"null1024":111,
"Willow":111,
"General Blobular":149,
"b00daw":149,
"Overkillius":149,
"Svetlana":223,
"SexyElf":223,
"Velathnos":223,
"coda":371,
"kfaraday":372,
"ElHuesudoII":446,
"TheNBN":446,
"Interrobang Pie":482,
"Jangler":669,
"Slimeball":1040,
"Warlord":1301,
"mootbooxle":1411,
"KungFuFurby":1969,
"Chip Champion":2265,
"zanzan":2452,
"Strobe":3195,
"ttl_pool":5200,"pool_per_cat":1040,"ttl_bonus":18238}

...which tells me that the 'pool_per_cat' amount was not correct; it didn't account for the number of formats. I don't have time today to real bite into this problem and fix. I'll have to write some scripts... I'm also curious how many battles have been like this. q__Q
 
 
Level 16 OHCist
Soiled Bargains
 
 
post #20204 :: 2012.10.02 3:50pm :: edit 2012.10.02 3:50pm ::
64K is the only format in major chip compos to give out Mixist points, which is why KungFuFurby's fantastic top 3 entry has made him a Mixist.
 
 
Level 30 Mixist
Baron Knoxburry
 
 
 
post #20207 :: 2012.10.03 9:42am :: edit 2012.10.03 12:15pm ::
Yes, 64k is sooooo fake bit! ;D
 
 
Level 22 Playa
xterm
 
 
 
post #20274 :: 2012.10.10 7:31pm :: edit 2012.10.10 7:32pm ::
stumbled upon some supporting evidence for my claim of inflated points being given for summer chip 2.

http://battleofthebits.com/daily_stats/#botbrs

click on "BotBrs" and compare the jump in total points (red line) to that of the most recent winter chip (which in theory would have had more, since there were more entries/formats).
 
 
Level 30 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #20289 :: 2012.10.11 6:21pm ::
  
  zanzan liēkd this
ok, I've got some shite news!! Here are a list of all major battles since BotB has been tracking point bonuses (OHBs aren;t tracked! :X). Below the battle title is the total amount of points that should be given out followed by the number of points actually given out.

Ann Arbor IX
3050 3048

Winter Chip VI
7075 31857

Produce Cover
2850 3414

Detroit VII
3200 3840

Revenge of Detroit VII
2775 3330

Summer Chip
5475 19146

Amen Sin III
3000 3600

SunVox
2725 3264

Na'arbor 9.5
2775 3330

Dies Irae
2800 3360

Winter Chip VII
6425 26365

Spring Tracks
2975 5474

DefleMask 6
2575 1986

Detroit VIII
3000 3600

Summer Chip II
5200 18238

...as we can all clearly see, these numberz are totally wonked! Especially for the multiple format (i.e. chip) battles. :( I'm not sure the best way to rectify this situation! :/
 
 
Level 22 Playa
xterm
 
 
 
post #20292 :: 2012.10.12 1:12am ::
hmm, are you 100% sure those records of the point distributions are accurate? those numbers wouldn't explain the extra jump in the points graph for SC2 (since I presume the graph shows actual points awarded, not theoretical point allocations). also it seems a bit weird that strobe would have gotten more than half the SC2 points (he got about 9500, as I recall).

and I disagree with svetlana :P I just got to level 15 dammit!! ;)

in all seriousness, if SC2 point distributions actually totaled 18238 (which I'm still dubious about), I'd probably just leave everything as-is for past battles... in terms of the math, it deserves a closer look to see what's going on. I think the scale of the actual allocations (2nd column) is probably reasonable - maybe we just need to make what actually happened the new standard?

one random idea to explain the discrepancies - maybe the "should be" doesn't include points from plays/downloads (because you can't predict that), but the "actual" is including those? there could also be an issue with rounding points up to the nearest whole number (but that probably doesn't explain a 3-4x difference in the big chip compos).

anyway, sorry if I'm being overly pedantic - I program accounting software for a living, so reconciliation/sanity checking numbers is kind of ingrained in my mind :P
 
 
Level 22 Playa
xterm
 
 
 
post #20293 :: 2012.10.12 1:22am ::
oh, check it out. strobe posted this to the channel after SC2:

"Strobe, you earned 2010 Mixist, 7242 Chipist, 333 Pixelist points."

that totals 9585, which is exactly three times what the "BonusPntsReport" says he got (3195).

probably not a coincidence. I'm guessing everyone got triple points.
 
 
Level 22 Playa
xterm
 
 
 
post #20295 :: 2012.10.12 1:38am ::
one more, then I actually sleep:

according to slimeball's original post, his points were off by just about 2x what the BonusPntsReport said he received. (7188 - 5104 = 2084 ~= 1040 * 2) so... yeah. something screwy happened. :P
 
 
Level 28 Chipist
KungFuFurby
 
 
 
post #20297 :: 2012.10.12 6:48am ::
I really wasn't expecting to get so many points after participating in Summer Chip II. I was for the most part a Mixist since I was participating in Detroit VIII, but now the Chipist section is catching up.
 
 
Level 31 Chipist
Strobe
 
 
 
post #20298 :: 2012.10.12 7:06am ::
  
  Slimeball liēkd this
NOOOOOO THEY BE STEALIN MAH PNTZ SOON! =((((
 
 
Level 29 Chipist
Jangler
 
 
 
post #20299 :: 2012.10.12 8:11am ::
  
  puke7 and xterm liēkd this
points are just a social construct
 
 
Level 27 Renderist
b00daw
 
 
 
 
post #20300 :: 2012.10.12 8:24pm ::
ey, pukey, giv dis slimeball a job as an accountant, will ya? scuze me, i got bidness with a man about a fish.
 
 
Level 16 OHCist
Soiled Bargains
 
 
post #20301 :: 2012.10.12 8:51pm ::
Svetlana, I was thinking the same thing yesterday.
 
 
Level 31 Chipist
Strobe
 
 
 
post #20302 :: 2012.10.13 2:46am ::
  
  kleeder, Baron Knoxburry, mootbooxle, Slimeball, xterm, puke7, Jangler, Chip Champion and b00daw liēkd this
It's the most terrible idea i have heard in about ten years.
 
 
Level 30 Mixist
mootbooxle
 
 
 
post #20304 :: 2012.10.15 5:37am ::
  
  xterm, Baron Knoxburry and Slimeball liēkd this
Yeah...*shudder*...I don't think I'd have the heart to level up to 20 all over again.
Even if points/levels/XP whatever are relatively meaningless in the grand scheme of things, it's still a lot to lose when you count the real life hours that went into creating the tunes that earned them points.
It's a lot more relevant than, say, level grinding in an RPG! At least we created actual works of tangible art in the process, however dubious they may (or may not) be!
 
 

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