Format Request: Mario Paint Composer
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41866
Level 25 Chipist
Flaminglog
 
 
 
post #41866 :: 2014.04.24 1:53pm
  
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Similar to mario paint.

Download link: http://www.mariomayhem.com/downloads/mario_paint_composer_download/index.php

Submissions could be in either .txt format, or .zip format (if a different soundfont from original is used).

Battles could have a specific soundfont to use, for example. I know that myself as well as a couple other botbrs (christerious, phazon, lob31 have all used it) have our roots as composers in this program, so I'm sure it could become a fairly popular format. (There is also interest from others who have not yet used the program).

Drawback: There is no direct export, so rendering to .mp3 could prove difficult (but still possible, some people such as myself have the equipment necessary for high quality recordings).
 
 
41868
Level 28 Chipist
KungFuFurby
 
 
 
post #41868 :: 2014.04.24 2:40pm :: edit 2014.04.24 2:42pm
  
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I actually downloaded this before, and it functions on my computer. I could technically record this using Wiretap Pro, although the program appears to be a Director MX file, and I may have some synching problems when playing the songs.

Actually, the program is discontinued according to the official website: http://www.unfungames.com/mariopaint/
 
 
41876
Level 29 Mixist
goluigi
 
 
 
post #41876 :: 2014.04.24 4:21pm
  
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wtf retro banned looks just like mpc reskinned
 
 
41877
Level 25 Chipist
HertzDevil
 
 
 
post #41877 :: 2014.04.24 4:30pm :: edit 2014.04.24 4:33pm
  
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can we also accept that japanese clone as listed somewhere in the lyceum

can we also accept savestates from every rom capable of music making

can we also accept each mml dialect as separate formats

can we also accept pretty much every piano roll editor format out there

can we just directly support stepmania files as a format

can we accept matlab scripts and mathematica files

i.e. just delete this and stfu and gtfo

This site is not dedicated for those "tools" that bear zero resemblence to chiptune, if you still want that then go host that YOURSELF at where you were 4-5 years ago with your worthless anth clutter
 
 
41878
Level 29 Mixist
goluigi
 
 
 
post #41878 :: 2014.04.24 4:32pm
  
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well i definitely accept savestate
 
 
41882
Level 28 Renderist
Slimeball
 
 
 
post #41882 :: 2014.04.24 4:38pm
  
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Can we delete HertzDevil please?
 
 
41884
Level 25 Chipist
HertzDevil
 
 
 
post #41884 :: 2014.04.24 4:40pm
tl;dr add Pulseboy instead of MPC
 
 
41885
Level 29 Mixist
goluigi
 
 
 
post #41885 :: 2014.04.24 4:43pm
  
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wow yeah i like worthless anth clutter ;(((((((( anth clutter is cutie i love big anth and little anth and also middle anth i love anth ^o^
 
 
41886
Level 25 Chipist
Flaminglog
 
 
 
post #41886 :: 2014.04.24 4:44pm
  
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Where I was 4 or 5 years ago, was where I was because I had no experience as a composer yet. Mario Paint Composer is a viable format because it is straightforward, user-friendly, and hosting battles would take very little server-space, as the program saves songs as text files.

There is plenty of room for restrictions within the program, restricting tempos, dictating which instruments should be used, mandating volume control be exaggerated or ignored, etc.

I suggested this because RaphaelGoulart thought it could be fun. That is what this site is about, yes? MPC is a fun program. That is the reason for my suggestion.
 
 
41889
Level 25 Chipist
HertzDevil
 
 
 
post #41889 :: 2014.04.24 4:47pm
how about notessimo 2
 
 
41890
Level 30 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #41890 :: 2014.04.24 4:50pm :: edit 2014.04.24 4:58pm
  
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Mario Paint Compose utilizes sharps and flats, and lets you have limitless notes per beat. This is a travesty. Y'all lucky rainwarrior made the extended feature for MarioPants. Besides, they discontinued dev on MPC
, what you want is Retroband.
 
 
41891
Level 25 Chipist
Flaminglog
 
 
 
post #41891 :: 2014.04.24 4:53pm
  
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Limitless? No, the limit is five notes per beat. But yes, accidentals are allowed.
 
 
41892
Level 29 Mixist
goluigi
 
 
 
post #41892 :: 2014.04.24 4:59pm :: edit 2014.04.24 5:00pm
  
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http://battleofthebits.com/lyceum/View/http://www.arcadecounty.com/games/retroband/

this is what the retroband link leads to

edit: botb cant display this properly so here is what it is with some s p a c e s added

http :/ /battleofthebits.com/lyceum/View/htt p : //www.arcadecounty.com/games/retroband/

(pls remove spaces)
 
 
41893
Level 27 Mixist
tothejazz
 
 
 
post #41893 :: 2014.04.24 5:13pm :: edit 2014.04.24 5:16pm
  
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i understand the idea of including mario paint composer, but it seems a bit too advanced to be included under the mario paint category. i mean you can include soundfonts, there's increased note count per beat, ridiculous tempo, and a more broad tonal scale, so including it under the botb mario paint format seems to be a bit of a stretch because at the end of the day, it's basically a soundfont composer. i personally like having mariopants as our go to for the format. with its emulation of the original mario paint music tool, it forces the musician to be more creative which is something i think should be focused on above anything else. we even utilize the extended bar count now, so i say we just stick to the pants!
 
 
41894
Level 11 Chipist
Christerious
 
 
post #41894 :: 2014.04.24 5:15pm
  
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The amount of notes is sorta limitless given you can just turn the speed all the way up to 11 and spam notes everywhere, but there's no sustain (at least with the default soundfont, ignoring the last 2 instruments), and with some select limitations (i.e no tempos beyond X, only the default soundfont) it would be fun. I am slightly biased given I used it a bunch a few years back, and it's understandable if people don't want it to be added, though I was under the impression that there weren't really many restrictions to what formats could be added to this site... just depends on interest. Though really, MarioPants is sufficient for me.
 
 
41896
Level 25 Chipist
Flaminglog
 
 
 
post #41896 :: 2014.04.24 5:21pm
  
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Alright, it was just a suggestion. Redacted.
 
 
41897
Level 28 Renderist
Slimeball
 
 
 
post #41897 :: 2014.04.24 5:28pm :: edit 2014.04.24 5:29pm
  
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I'd still like to abuse the wildchip format for a few ohcs using mario paint composer. :P
 
 
41898
Level 27 Chipist
raphaelgoulart
 
 
 
post #41898 :: 2014.04.24 5:35pm :: edit 2014.04.24 5:35pm
  
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tothejazz, what we're suggesting is a separate format for MPC (since we all acknowledge it's not actual mario paint, but a different tool based on it)
i dont think that it being "a "tool" that bear zero resemblence to chiptune" is a valid issue since this website is not ENTIRELY dedicated to chiptune (you can take any of the several recent allgear majors such as usability, Metal II, Detroit IX, etc. as examples), and we even have the wildchip format on which "fakebit" stuff is accepted, besides other formats that aren't chip specific (such as our beloved s3xmodit) - so why not? thats just my opinion anyway
and if this end up not being implemented, well, we can always host allgear ohcs on which the bitpack says you must use mpc or whatever, but idk, like lil anth said, i suggested it because it might be fun and THAT's the real purpose of the website, isn't it? imo its not a bad idea c:
 
 
41902
Level 25 Chipist
Flaminglog
 
 
 
post #41902 :: 2014.04.24 7:39pm
  
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Okay, holy crap. Retro band is unusable trash, worse than famitracker 0.9.
 
 
41907
Level 22 Chipist
uUni
 
 
 
post #41907 :: 2014.04.24 8:39pm
  
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I am against having Mario Paint Composer as a format.
 
 
41924
Level 13 Mixist
9999HP
 
 
post #41924 :: 2014.04.25 10:49am
  
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1 Mario Paint format is plenty. What we really need is Batari Basic.
 
 

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