If feeling disheartened by where you placed
BotB Academy Bulletins
 
 
43980
Level 23 Chipist
MKSTAR26
 
 
 
post #43980 :: 2014.06.01 2:54pm
  
  plrusek, raphaelgoulart and Slimeball liēkd this
Just remember: you have every right to be disappointed (rationally or irrationally), so chin up and launch yourself into your future entries thinking "I WILL do better". If you have any pent-up rage (I know I do), throw it at a pillow, not your fellow BotBrs :)
 
 
43982
Level 24 Chipist
ElHuesudoII
 
 
 
post #43982 :: 2014.06.01 2:57pm
  
  DimWiddy, raphaelgoulart, mootbooxle, Flaminglog, goluigi and Slimeball liēkd this
I'm more surprised I got a can on overall score. I mean, yeah, people have mentioned The Dignatary sounds really cool, but it's really long and it drags a bit so

yeah

On the other hand, I didn't expect the slinky to score so low, hahahahahahaha
 
 
43983
Level 27 Mixist
aji
 
 
 
post #43983 :: 2014.06.01 3:01pm
  
  raphaelgoulart, mootbooxle, Slimeball, Xaser, dw- and MKSTAR26 liēkd this
and also remember that a) everybody has experienced their fair share of disappointment at some point or another, and b) if you had fun making your entry and are proud of it, that's really the most important thing about making music. i don't mean to say "you did your best" or "everybody is a winner" but to point out that it really isn't about winning, it's about improving your own skills as a musician and being part of a community that wants to help you do better.

also, "if you're not the worst member of your band, you should probably change bands", so if you're not doing as well as you'd like at BotB, it means that BotB is a community where you can grow as a musician and learn from others.

there's no shame in placing poorly after doing your best. in fact, it can be argued that it's what a community like this is about.
 
 
43984
Level 29 Mixist
goluigi
 
 
 
post #43984 :: 2014.06.01 3:04pm
  
  kleeder, Jangler, tothejazz, raphaelgoulart and Slimeball liēkd this
i am more disappointed where other entries placed wooow :(
 
 
43986
Level 24 Chipist
Tilde
 
 
 
post #43986 :: 2014.06.01 3:12pm
  
  9999HP, goluigi, Beard, Xaser and Slimeball liēkd this
  
  raphaelgoulart and MKSTAR26 hæitd this
I am disappointed by where I placed.
 
 
43993
Level 22 Chipist
Beard
 
 
 
post #43993 :: 2014.06.01 4:07pm
  
  DimWiddy, aji, dw-, raphaelgoulart, Slimeball, mootbooxle and Flaminglog liēkd this
I enjoy this type of thinking. Like stars, you can condense your negativity towards this into energy and use that energy to propel you even further in the next round. It's great to know that all these great winning musicians were all in the same place as us current losers at one point. It's all about pushing your limits each time, and picking up on how your hardest attempts, even if they do not win, most likely will place better each time. Just practice, eat healthy, and don't do drugs. Just a tip from Beard.
 
 
43995
Level 24 Chipist
Flaminglog
 
 
 
post #43995 :: 2014.06.01 4:09pm
  
  raphaelgoulart, Xaser and mootbooxle liēkd this
i think i'm going to do an epic ballad about love and loss and regained love for wildchip for summer

if there IS a wildchip, which i hope there is

i'm gunning for first overall this time, i will not be satisfied until i achieve this at least one time
 
 
43999
Level 30 Mixist
mootbooxle
 
 
 
post #43999 :: 2014.06.01 4:25pm
  
  aji, Beard, Flaminglog, tothejazz and raphaelgoulart liēkd this
YOU CAN DO IT
I'm thrilled with how I placed...I didn't expect to do well at all with either of my entries since they didn't seem to be well-liked. I had fun making them; I did some out-of-the-box stuff for me, which I encourage everyone to do once in a while!
The only time I'm ever disappointed with place is when I spend loads of time on my entry and am trying very hard to win, and I don't place very high.
There can be a disparity between the amount of effort put into an entry and the reception of it by the community.
I don't recommend not having fun and stressing out over your entry, or pandering to "popular BotB trends" or any other expectation in order to win. Make YOUR music, something that expresses who you are.
Of course, if who you are is a neurotic, attention-starved people pleaser, then by all means do that ;P
 
 
44001
Level 22 Chipist
SketchMan3
 
 
 
post #44001 :: 2014.06.01 4:29pm
  
  cce, dw-, stinkbug, 9999HP and Flaminglog liēkd this
Haven't checked. Don't care.
 
 
44022
Level 13 Mixist
9999HP
 
 
post #44022 :: 2014.06.01 8:19pm
  
  DimWiddy, xterm, Xaser, raphaelgoulart, Beard, mootbooxle, Slimeball, Savestate and goluigi liēkd this
WHY DID MY 4 MINUTE LONG MARIO PANTS RAP INSTRUMENTAL NOT WIN??? THIS COMPO MUST HAVE BEEN RIGGED BY THE ILLUMINATI
 
 
44023
Level 24 Mixist
Zillah
 
 
 
post #44023 :: 2014.06.01 8:28pm
  
  Xaser, raphaelgoulart, aji and Slimeball liēkd this
I'm feeling okay with where I was placed. Yes I would've liked to do better, but I aint mad or anything about it.
 
 
44096
Level 30 Mixist
Baron Knoxburry
 
 
 
post #44096 :: 2014.06.02 5:50pm
  
  Slimeball, raphaelgoulart, mootbooxle and goluigi liēkd this
LOL Not surprised by placement at all even if it's one of my very most favorite things I've made all year! :P
 
 
44112
Level 24 Pixelist
DimWiddy
 
 
 
post #44112 :: 2014.06.02 9:39pm
  
  raphaelgoulart, Slimeball, mootbooxle and Christerious liēkd this
I don't care about the placement as much as the album! If I get on the album, it means EXPOSURE! People will come up to me on the street and ask "are you the one guy who wrote the mario pants in Spring Trax?! Damn dude!!! Come work at Seganintendosoft and eat doughnuts with us."

Still... about placement... Hibernation placed 32nd??? I liēkd that better than my WC9 entry!!
 
 
44113
Level 11 Chipist
Christerious
 
 
post #44113 :: 2014.06.02 9:44pm
  
  raphaelgoulart and Slimeball liēkd this
Oh man, I totally forgot about the ALBUM. Maybe I will become at least internet famous so people will walk up to me on the internet and recognize me...

But yeah I'm happy with 30th for my cutesong I'm glad people thought it was as cute as I did :D
 
 
44144
Level 28 Renderist
Slimeball
 
 
 
post #44144 :: 2014.06.03 3:20am
  
  raphaelgoulart and goluigi liēkd this
I'm positively surprised my entries scored that high. I even ranked higher than Jangler did last Spring Tracks. (so yeah, by extension, I beat him!!!)

I'm also happy I outclassed my greatest 2012 hit Da Seventies. Although I sort of wish that would've not taken almost 2 years. ;)

I will however argue with mootbooxle here:

"The only time I'm ever disappointed with place is when I spend loads of time on my entry and am trying very hard to win, and I don't place very high."

This (almost) never happens to you moot!!!! :P I feel it's a lot easier to cope with these things when you end up winning a lot of compos regularly. That can't be said about most other people.

Also, pandering to trends isn't a bad thing necessarily. Most of us do this either subconsciously or consciously. ;) I feel a lot more of that happens in the world of commercial/professional music, and I'd go as far as saying it's a completely legit part of being a professional musician.

I actually consider it possible that our very identities and appearance are mostly the end product of pandering to certain trends and popularity. Hmm, maybe I'm getting a bit too philosophical here.... :P

Oh, and there's nothing wrong with being a neurotic, attention-starved people pleaser! There's a bit of that in all of us, and it's good to embrace it sometimes!
 
 
44145
Level 24 Chipist
Tilde
 
 
 
post #44145 :: 2014.06.03 3:40am
  
  mootbooxle liēkd this
Never let them catch you working.
 
 
44149
Level 23 Chipist
irrlicht project
 
 
 
post #44149 :: 2014.06.03 5:15am
  
  goluigi, n00b, raphaelgoulart and 9999HP liēkd this
I don't care that much about placement, but it does annoy me that the biggest factor in voting seems to be the time spent on social engineering on the site. I've noticed this a few times now - I can make a fairly low quality track and it will still score highly if I spend enough time on giving out comments and likes. If, however, I miss out on that because I don't have the time to hang out on botb 24/7, then my works will score in the lower third even if they are decent quality.

I don't know if there's really a way out of this. Making entries anonymous would be the obvious solution, but I doubt things would stay anonymous during a 30 day entry period.
 
 
44151
Level 22 Chipist
plrusek
 
 
 
post #44151 :: 2014.06.03 7:14am
  
  DimWiddy, goluigi, Slimeball, Savestate and raphaelgoulart liēkd this
maybe i haven't placed high in st3 or wc9 but LOOK AT DAT NUMBER ONE

http://battleofthebits.bandcamp.com/album/winter-chip-ix
 
 
44152
Level 19 Chipist
Moose
 
 
 
post #44152 :: 2014.06.03 7:33am
When IS the album supposed to come out, anyway? How long does it usually take to compile these things?
 
 
44155
Level 27 Renderist
b00daw
 
 
 
 
post #44155 :: 2014.06.03 8:45am
  
  mootbooxle liēkd this
hah it didn't take long at all... chipchamp got this shit.
 
 
44161
Level 16 Pedagogist
n00b
 
 
post #44161 :: 2014.06.03 10:46am
  
  goluigi liēkd this
Tbh, I'm dissappointed with where I'm placed. I hoped my entry on really taking use of the extended feature of the format would be appreciated and I was quite pleased with my hard work.
Still, 141th of 150 is probably not that bad for a n00b entry in a major.

Missing the constructive feedback and am curious why it scored so low. Anyone who likes to tell me why it is not appreciated by the botb community please tell me! :-)

Oh and is there a possibility to see the resluts of all entries within a format?
 
 
44184
Level 29 Mixist
goluigi
 
 
 
post #44184 :: 2014.06.03 2:11pm
n00b i think i voted you pretty high but i can't check my votes again seeing as this compo is over!
 
 
44186
Level 30 Mixist
mootbooxle
 
 
 
post #44186 :: 2014.06.03 2:20pm
  
  tothejazz liēkd this
irrlicht project, I'm fascinated and perplexed by what you said. Are you alleging that spending time commenting and favoriting others' tracks has a bearing on your placement in a compo? How does that work? This is not Youtube, Twitter, or Facebook, "like for like" "sub for sub" "follow back pls". I don't see how that could possibly affect the outcome in a measurable way. The only thing it may do is to get your name in front of others more often.
Never once have I been voting in a compo and said "Hey, this guy is nice. He gave me some nice feedback on my tune. I think I'll vote him higher." I vote as most non-trolls vote: if the song is good, higher votes.

What am I missing here?
 
 
44187
Level 24 Chipist
Tilde
 
 
 
post #44187 :: 2014.06.03 3:00pm
  
  Slimeball liēkd this
Social engineering exists everywhere, you can't quite get away from it. And certainly, you get more voters/favorites by advertising your song. I don't think it's a particularly big issue here, though.
 
 
44188
Level 23 Chipist
MKSTAR26
 
 
 
post #44188 :: 2014.06.03 3:06pm
  
  Fearofdark, ElHuesudoII and mootbooxle liēkd this
One especially prevalent form of social engineering I've noticed here is tagging - "sociopathy" being pretty much the biggest example there

BotB culture is weird
 
 
44189
Level 30 Mixist
mootbooxle
 
 
 
post #44189 :: 2014.06.03 3:19pm
  
  tothejazz liēkd this
Oh yeah, I mean, those are consequences of any sort of social platform. But I don't see how that tangibly translates into placing higher in a compo. Just because it's more visible don't mean people will like it more! It simply gives more people an opportunity to like it (which they already had, but out of sight, out of mind).
 
 
44190
Level 29 Mixist
goluigi
 
 
 
post #44190 :: 2014.06.03 3:27pm
  
  cce, ElHuesudoII and Slimeball liēkd this
sociopathic engineering
 
 
44191
Level 24 Chipist
Tilde
 
 
 
post #44191 :: 2014.06.03 3:28pm
  
  dw-, DimWiddy, tothejazz, Slimeball and goluigi liēkd this
*smiles and maintains eye contact*
 
 
44193
Level 25 Chipist
chunter
 
 
 
post #44193 :: 2014.06.03 4:25pm
  
  Savestate, Baron Knoxburry, DimWiddy, Moose, R3M and goluigi liēkd this
If you start with the expectation of winning, you're probably doing it wrong.
 
 
44194
Level 22 Chipist
uUni
 
 
 
post #44194 :: 2014.06.03 4:51pm
  
  mootbooxle, ElHuesudoII and DimWiddy liēkd this
I thought The Dignatary was going to win
 
 
44220
Level 10 Mixist
gyms_
 
 
post #44220 :: 2014.06.03 10:39pm
  
  goluigi, Fearofdark, Slimeball, plrusek, mootbooxle, Savestate, tothejazz and Baron Knoxburry liēkd this
@chunter, i disagree

i don't think anything is wrong with being competitive and wanting to place high or win. i know there are a lot of people who really don't care either way, and yea i'd agree that's a more healthy and balanced way to approach things, but i think a lot of people come here to compete, improve and, yes, feed their egos cos winning or placing in stuff makes you feel pretty good about yourself.

i like this thread. it's a nice break from all the fake modesty bs i see slathered about here and there. it's totally okay to feel pissed off or disappointed that you didn't place as high as you hoped~
 
 
44254
Level 22 Chipist
uUni
 
 
 
post #44254 :: 2014.06.04 3:11am
  
  Christerious and plrusek hæitd this
Honestly, The Dignatary should have won. I hate trollvoters
 
 
44280
Level 22 Chipist
plrusek
 
 
 
post #44280 :: 2014.06.04 11:35am
  
  Savestate and Christerious liēkd this
  
  uUni hæitd this
and in my opinion "Mario keeps spaghetti to himself" should've won.

but seriously - please don't force your opinions on others.
 
 
44282
Level 24 Chipist
Tilde
 
 
 
post #44282 :: 2014.06.04 12:12pm
  
  uUni hæitd this
Force your penis on others instead, folks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pele5vptVgc
 
 
44304
Level 27 Mixist
aji
 
 
 
post #44304 :: 2014.06.04 7:47pm
  
  Savestate and Slimeball liēkd this
there were lots of amazing entries, but there are only 3 medals and 4 tincans to give out
 
 
44320
Level 29 Mixist
goluigi
 
 
 
post #44320 :: 2014.06.05 12:15pm
wtf whats the point of entering if you do it to place and not to have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
44322
Level 13 Mixist
9999HP
 
 
post #44322 :: 2014.06.05 12:48pm
  
  plrusek liēkd this
Here I sit all disheartened
Entered to win and only farted
 
 

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