Ability to choose the license for your uploaded entries
BotB Academy Bug Reports and Feature Requests
 
 
200664
Level 11 Mixist
Glitz Gal
 
 
post #200664 :: 2024.11.11 10:04am
  
  LagMage, Luigi64 and Caffeinator liēkd this
One of the licenses ("to give the artist their right to redistribute their work any way they like") now get a certain license applied (CC BY-NC-SA), to "give the artist their right to redistribute their work any way they like"

This reasoning falls a bit short, since:

1. It's actually more of a restriction over how an author may control the distribution/monetization/anything else covered by the license chosen, when a platform assigns a license to entries mandating their non-BotB usage (I assume this is how it's supposed to be implied, at least)
2. "All rights reserved" still applies by copyright law, when anything else isn't specifically mentioned

I agree that the legal "waiver" (CC BY-ND) the author gives BotB for each entry, is necessary.

.. And perhaps, just like how it's done now, an additional license could provide some additional clarity for those who don't understand copyright law.

But, perhaps the author could at least then choose from a list of available licenses? Maybe the most common CC-variations for starters.

But that also makes me wonder, why not also "All Rights Reserved"? I don't see how this could cause any liability concerns for BotB, given the presence of the "waiver". Nor do I understand how the actions taken of other people elsewhere with BotB-entries is of BotB's concern.

This is something that's been on my mind for a while. It's far from a critical issue, but perhaps something to consider for the future that might benefit authors on BotB. What do you people think? Discuss!
 
 
200667
Level 6 Mixist
TiffanyNeat
 
 
post #200667 :: 2024.11.11 11:01am
  
  Jangler hæitd this
glitz gal is 100% right here & if you wanna give the artist most rights you should at least go for CC BY-SA which is what i always prefer to upload Anything i make with
 
 
200668
Level 9 Mixist
Caffeinator
 
 
post #200668 :: 2024.11.11 11:02am
personally i'm fine with it since that's the license i use anyway, but it would definitely be good for people to have more control over the licensing terms of their works

there might be some complications i'm not aware of idk
 
 
200676
Level 31 Chipist
damifortune
 
 
 
post #200676 :: 2024.11.11 12:31pm
  
  mirageofher, Jangler, nitrofurano and petet liēkd this
i'm confused why you would want CC-BY-SA over CC-BY-NC-SA. why would you just give away the ability for others to use your work commercially when they could also just ask you and pay you if you wanted paid? am i missing something here - how is NC restricting the author more?

this was also sort of discussed in a related thread by roz last year: https://battleofthebits.com/academy/GroupThread/35340/Feature+request%3A+Creative+Commons+0+Dedication/
 
 
200680
Level 6 Mixist
TiffanyNeat
 
 
post #200680 :: 2024.11.11 1:10pm
moreso i was wanting a BY-SA over BY-ND since thats the one BotB uses for its distribution, generally I don't like licenses that disencourage derivative works which BY-ND does so that's why I just defaulted towards SA in place,

BY-NC-SA though, I dunno, generally I also don't hate commercial use being possible with a song. I know I'd wanna use some of my publishings for itch.io games, so I'd rather allow the ability for commercial use then disavow it completely. NC disables all commercial uses, so I couldn't just permit that usage even if I wanted to, which sucks...
 
 
200682
Level 31 Chipist
damifortune
 
 
 
post #200682 :: 2024.11.11 1:43pm :: edit 2024.11.11 1:44pm
  
  mirageofher, Chepaki, Jangler, nitrofurano and petet liēkd this
the NC clause doesn't apply to you as the rights holder/licensor though, you can do whatever you want with it, it just prohibits others from using your work commercially (without your explicit, separate permission).

it's the first point here
 
 
200685
Level 11 Mixist
Glitz Gal
 
 
post #200685 :: 2024.11.11 2:40pm :: edit 2024.11.11 2:41pm
In the scenario where I'd actually want others to monetize my music (say if I want to give others monetary incitaments to spread my work), "advertising" the entries with a somewhat restrictive license (CC BY-NC-SA) might be counter productive to that cause.

Maybe they won't even ask, and think that it's the licensing I choose myself?

Being able to choose your license would solve this. I don't think there's a "one size fits all".
 
 
200687
Level 6 Mixist
TiffanyNeat
 
 
post #200687 :: 2024.11.11 2:59pm
generally yea just choosing your own license would be the best fit here lol, i just don't like when i feel derivative use is being discouraged though i'm also not an expert on Creative Commons xP
 
 
200691
Level 29 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #200691 :: 2024.11.11 3:50pm
  
  mirageofher, Jangler, nitrofurano, Caffeinator and Glitz Gal liēkd this
I'm open to making some changes, but not on a granular level. For example: if people want to set a different license for all their content on the site I can make that setting, but choosing a different license for each individual entry is probably not going to happen.

I've also updated the lyceum page about the licenses:
https://battleofthebits.com/lyceum/View/BotB+CC+License
 
 
200692
Level 6 Mixist
TiffanyNeat
 
 
post #200692 :: 2024.11.11 4:26pm :: edit 2024.11.11 4:27pm
  
  goluigi liēkd this
I'd be down for a profile-wide license change option 100%, I wasn't really going to wanna set them individually anyways
 
 
200734
Level 29 Hostist
puke7
 
 
 
post #200734 :: 2024.11.12 1:30pm
  
  mirageofher, Jangler and damifortune liēkd this
admins discussed and wordings were slightly updated:
https://battleofthebits.com/lyceum/View/BotB+CC+License
 
 
200980
Level 27 Chipist
KungFuFurby
 
 
 
post #200980 :: 2024.11.14 10:23pm
  
  mirageofher liēkd this
I actually decided to include the licensing info inside my MML entry, partially because I was recycling it from a video game soundtrack that also used that particular sound driver, and also because I knew Battle of the Bits was doing these licenses in the first place. I just simply had to include the licenses that the site used.
 
 

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