Very Rare Formats

108632

the stream of puke making this was fun to watch

108633

second!

108634

Yes. Dpit

108635

And by that I mean I second Yung Gotenks his sentiment.

108637

brb making rebound 2 2

108638

My worst nightmare come true

108639

you accidentally rhymed, but that's nothing new

108640

same restriction on vcv rack as last time? (only free modules available in the VCV Rack Plugin Manager)

108642

huzzah! now we talkin.
btw I'd be in favour of going for hand-written SVGs. I mean it's A) kind of hard to enforce that rule, and of course B) it's much more practical to use a vector gfx editor. But manually writing SVG is such a unique and fun experience for which there's otherwise little reason to indulge in (not least because of B).

108643

done:
- pcx801
- ansi
- mt32
- svg
- mod32k
- ted
- klystrack
- lgpt
- mix battle art
- NTRQ
- tic80

108645

HEY YALL. If you guys need music for your TIC-80 game, feel free to contact me (Discord: Dippy#0615, Email: grimeskeith2@gmail.com), cause i'll be willing to do it. I'm not always available, so weekends would be a good time.

108655

okay question (kinda silly but here it goes): does a tic-80 entry needs to be an actual game? can it just be a cart with a music that plays automatically when you open it? or maybe a demo kind of stuff?

108656

it might end up ranking lower than an actual game for obvious reasons, but it is absolutely fine to submit a demo type thing as long as it actually Does Something :)

108657

ah ok, fair enough. yeah i'm of course not expecting a "non-game" entry to score higher than actual games, just wondering if they were valid at all

my todo list (which i'll probably forget and/or ignore afterwards but here goes):
[x] bytebeat
[ ] pc-98
[ ] mt-32
[ ] mod32k
[ ] tic-80 (possibly collab with someone who can actually program)
[ ] take a proper look at the other formats to include them in this list or not

wasnt on my list but i still did it
[x] commodore plus/4
[x] bytebeat1k

108658

I'd actually vote higher on a demo, if that demo is properly pushing the limits.
Also, waiting for someone to make an actual demo in svg :D

108662

*chipchamp has entered chat

108676

you thought i was kidding about making rebound 2 2 didn't you

108677

[x] 32k
[ ] PC-x801
[ ] NTRQ
[ ] snibbetracker
[ ] klystrack
[ ] TED
[ ] bytebeat1k

Might attempt some other formats besides what's on this list.

Gonna save my energy for Spring Tracks VIII and for finishing the rest of the 21-Day VGM Challenge.

108697

To do:
PC-x801
mod32k
klystrack
maybe lgpt

Done:
Bytebeat
Bytebeat 1k
snibbetracker

108712

there's no format that accomodates me except for mod32k

108716

do whatever you want, but: this major is to try out the rare (and obscure) formats botb has to offer and limiting yourself to sexmodit is a bit dull imo.

108740

klystrack looks familiar enough and apparently does a lot of sounds, I want to try it.

Also, is there any way of making a legal pc-x801 entry with bamboo tracker?

108755

about Very Rare Formats I think this has never been used before.

108768

@zygrunt only if you make a track of which the VGM generated is less than 128kb (it can be compressed with vgm_cmp but not into .vgz) you can use S98player
(submit the generated .D88 file), other than that, there's no way to play bamboo tracker things on PC-x801 hardware for now, so not legal

108770

Anyways here goes my epic list

[ ] PC-x801

108772

Thanks! <3

108814

I can attempt to make music for the following formats...
- 32k module (the only s3xmodit format this go round)
- bytebeat
- LittleGPTracker
- Roland MT-32 (using Harmony Assistant + Munt)
- NTRQ (using nestopia as my emulator)

These are question marks...
- NEC PC-x801 FM (DOSBox would be able to get this working in theory, but I don't know how well this will work...)
- Commodore Plus/4 (This is going to depend on how well I can get Vice working in this scenario. I have 2.4...)

I either attempted and failed to compile or have a version incompatibility with the following formats...
- klystrack
- TIC-80
- VCVRack (have not attempted to compile yet, but the official binary is a version incompatibility)
- snibbetracker (no source available)

108818

I think it's a bit unfair to call brand new formats rare, but whatever works... I'm embarrassed that I didn't try using ntrq on my phone earlier.

108845

I will be truly disappointed if the final amount of entries containing steak puns, David Wise pastiches, Battletoads references etc. is any less than 35

108853

To answer a couple questions I seent:

VCV Rack uses original rules: only modules available on directly from the site are allowed

YMZ280B is not a BotB format; the article linked was created by author of the post; possible future format: .vgm?

108859

KFF: Vice is not very accurate when it comes to TED sound. I recommend using YAPE instead, or at least double-checking your track in it.

108861

ted (x)
maybe others
oo, i didnt know about yape, cheers!

108868

mt-32 looks interesting, by the fact that I have a SC-88vl that happens to have a bank with the same instrument-layout. Well, looks like the resulting sound will be secret until playback on munt

108869

im going in hard get ready
(maybe)

108870

(I'm expecting a TIC-80 entry) (from everyone) /

108875

YAPE is in! I successfully compiled the program through importing an XCode project after making a minor tweak for a couple of not included files. Thanks for the recommendation, irrlicht project!

108886

I'm probably gonna actually write the MML for my PC98 entry instead of using s3mml or something this time around.

108915

OK so here's the thing: i tried making tilesets myself for my TIC-80 entry but failed miserably. If anybody's interested in helping me with the graphics for my game, drop me a line on Discord pls.

edit: reminder that this is still a thing

108937

Is zandronum a boom-compatible engine? If so, i'll probably make a boom map.

108947

#rareandbased

108949

Well, I'll making a 32KB Executable Music for the chip music (chip drum sounds without downsampled) or demo style using an Amiga ST-XX by using MOD Format as well.

108956

Would MT32 cover LAPC and CM32 ? Those two have extra sounds in them over MT32, but still same sound chips.

108961

To Tildo: no

109030

@Yung Gotenks: Zandronum can play Boom maps, but it's also got a lot more features than Boom itself does, so you risk accidentally bustin' the rules.

Your best bet is to download PRBoom-Plus and use that for testing; that's the gold standard.

Source: i'm an doom nurd lol

109077

oh my god I love this
but yet no fsound, sad

109080

i'm very sorry about that. i think, my excessive abuse of fsound in the past months might have lead to this situation.

fsound is not rare enough anymore :((((

109103

What does a doom map have to do with music? :D Are you supposed to make a Mario maker type level where you sequence music by crushing enemies or something? Or do you just make a normal map and just make an original midi for it?

109104

nobody said it has to do something with music :thonk:

109313

Due to unforeseen circumstances, I may not be able to finish and submit Rebound 2 2 for this battle. My computer has suddenly decided to not boot for some reason, and I might have to order replacement parts. EDIT: Disregard, turns out my computer was just being a dong for no reason. Rebound 2 2 LIVES ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!1!!!!!1!!!1!!!!one!!!!1!!!!

109316

oh hey! :D

the sad news #2 is still relevant: i wont be able to finish my game.
~~(unless there's an extension happening)~~
small update: wont be able to finish it for this major. i'll do something small instead and wait for the next opportunity to finish and submit the big game c:

109317

please extend teh entry period for the battle pl0x

109318

yee that would be cool. some formats are still rare wtf?!

109343

plz give extender so my brain doesn't melt

also, so we can drop some cool stuff for ya

109344

An extension would be nice, I wanna get some entries in so I can be prepared to see them in later battles!

Also I'll need extra time to wrap my head around bytebeat...

109352

I literally only just noticed that 'boom map' was even a format in this, so if I want to do something for that I'd need an extension too :(

109353

some of these formats are rare because they take a lot of time to set up or just in itself take a lot of time to produce (eg games). so for once i am breaking my code of honor here and requesting an extension

109365

TWO WEEKS

109366

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

109367

yay now i can continue to procrastinate on rebound 2 2

109369

Thank you! I was a little afraid that s3xmodit minia 2019-A was going to cut short my production here, as I thought I was going to run into time constraints as a result of that distraction.

109370

awesome! more time to not get anything done 😅

109378

yeah can there not be a single battle where you don't extend the deadline so much that i end up procrastinating even more when i do have time and then do nothing because i don't have the time when the new deadline hits

109388

*picture of a crying baby*

109404

i'll only accept it in ANSI art format

109428

Unfortunately, due to a lack of motivation, Rebound 2 2 won't be releasing as I originally envisioned. It's still coming, just don't be surprised when it ends abruptly.

109541

quick reminder: boom still has 0 entries!! D:

edit: good! more than 0 now

109732

motivation = lost :(

109987

i just 💯
it was really cool seeing people try out different tools : )

edit; and i got to try out a new one too

110017

having a hectic day!
gooona results stream next sunday!
get moar vorts in!
or start on teh next battle!

110214

holy crap, i got 2 new medals to stare at on my profile, nice!!

110217

Average Score :: 22.249

110250

In my opinion it's not bad, but considering this was my first Major Battle i've done it looked weird for me since it didn't have most of the formats that are well known.

110351

That's too bad! Only mix battle art that I made. The passing score is 20% then I cannot get the place of 7th rank appeared.

114962

wow these bandcamp releases sure are R A R E HAHAHAHAHHASRSL,L,.G,LKSDK,MGKSMDJGMSJMRGJMSRJMGSRJMKGKJMK,GWK,WEK,IEWK,IWEK,OLGWKL,WE

121838

just a small, maybe interesting fact.
the currently rarest 16 formats on botb are

mt32 57
ahx 55
bytebeat1k 55
pc-x801 54
html5 47
sapx2 45
svg 36
snibbetracker 34
lgpt 32
ted 31
klystrack 31
vcv_rack 31
tic80 30
ntrq 26
pd 19
boom 8

121937

makes my head go "boom 8"