SN7 in stereo, why not

We have 18 nes formats, we can spare another sega 8-bit one

For that matter, why not SMS with OPLL?

yes but no

@Twenty-Seven
yesyesyesyesyes

i like the sn7 and i like the argument given in the post so i give this one the good thumbs up

what software targets this format besides furnace?

pls provide the necessary info with ur request.
file formats, software, playback etc

I guess it would just be a Furnace .vgm format right? So really we could already have Game Gear and SMS OPLL battles, they would just have to be specified in the bitpack. Which is maybe a little less fun than having their own dedicated format. Maybe! I dunno I'm new here :p

playing devil's advocate, if you wanted the SMS+OPLL, or perhaps specifically Game Gear, why not just host .vgm format, or Furnace format? for Game Gear alone it's basically the same as the SMS format. again, i like the idea, but it feels a bit like clutter.

the nsf formats make a bit more sense (i'll give nsfc benefit of the doubt, but that's the one i'd axe if given the opportunity) because the NES did have a lot of expansions which can be used with the nsfplus format, and it makes sense to target the base 2A03 with regular nsf. the SMS only had the one expansion afaik so idk if it would be a super necessary format to specifically tailor to one thing.

"What targets this besides furnace" is a great question. If there's another tool for it and it doesn't suck, then I'd be happy to have a game gear format

I think it's probably worth noting why NSF had different formats:

- NSF, the one that's standard no expansions stuff, used to be a catch-all for anything that could run on the NES. It was changed with the introduction of NSF+, which was intended for things to happen on more fair grounds.

- NSF Classic, I believe is meant as an analogue to FamiCompo's NSF Classic, which denotes a stock 2a03 with no DPCM, and no refresh-rate shenanigans (only once per NMI here, I believe regular NSF is different).

It's certainly true that it's got more formats, but it's also way more popular of a system and had several expansions for it. It's not "just because".

As for Game Gear, the only meaningful difference between it and Master System is the addition of stereo. If you count OPLL, then that's another difference - The Game Gear doesn't have access to that.

I could see the suggestion work on the grounds that the current format is renamed to Game Gear, and there's a new SMS format with OPLL allowed, but I honestly don't think it's worth adding yet another format (and potentially another badge) for what's a pretty insignificant change in reality. I'd vote to just keep things as they are really.

For tools, anything that can export Mega Drive could potentially also work for SMS. Specific tools include Furnace and SnevenTracker, the latter being a fork of 0.4.6 Vanilla FamiTracker to add both SMS and GG support.

format | .vgm, .gg, .sms i guess?
software | furnace, vgm mm, probably some mml thing i haven't heard of
playback | vgmplay/etc for emulation, real hardware has an Everdrive-based player rom

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I understand that VGM and Furnace formats include game gear. But I haven't seen many people use them for GG, and I think a dedicated format would boost interest. This especially applies to bitpack-free majors.

As for SMS+OPLL, it's not something I personally care about. But maybe it would make sense to put it together with GG in an SMS-plus format.

"This comment was misunderstood by the replier that twisted the suggestion to sound ridiculous." - BotB

It's not my place to advocate for changing a legacy format. But if that makes the most sense in the end, so be it

re 234275: i think we should just merge famitracker and famiplus because they are basically the same tools

oh and why not merge ym2151 and x68k while we are at it, one is just a ym2151 with a sample channel :)

just gonna go ahead and mention neo geo pocket cause it sucks a little less

wonderswan format

Tomorrow, we'll find out if the hype is real: https://battleofthebits.com/arena/Battle/10852/MainScreen/Game+Gear

dangit i'll be busy then

Like BB said, we can also use VGM Music Maker

for Game Gear. It was created in 2011 by BotBr Shiru. I just read some documentation and tested it.

In order to work with GG in VGM MM, you must limit yourself to using the PSG channels only and input the panning effect command Pxy (when desired). Non-zero value x enables the left channel, while non-zero value y enables the right one. Zero xy keeps the pan to the center. Only hard pans and center are possible.

Make sure to export VGM or VGZ files to GG only. Exporting them to MD/Genesis or SMS will result in mono by default for the PSG channels, because the Genesis and the Master System don't support stereo PSG.

Hope this is helpful.