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Hi.
I'll duplicate my new stance and argument on this issue below, edited for clarity and brevity:
The filesize limit is still too small. Even after the bump it received:
https://battleofthebits.com/academy/GroupThread/11893/
Consider for a moment the function of a filesize limit in every other format. It's not supposed to be easy to hit. Consider for a minute the amount of times your samples get to 8 MB in s3xmod, or 1024 KB in nsf-plus, or even 1MB in midi. The function of the upload limit isn't that of an additional limitation; it's a measure to make sure you're not completely breaking things. NES games didn't often have 1024 KB to work with. If they had that much, they were pushing the limits. You don't need 8MB to store quality samples and you don't need 1MB to theoretically make a good midi. The Amiga is capable of more, especially in the later models. And as it currently stands, it is absolutely a bottleneck and a pain to work with. You can't always get good quality out of 256 KB (especially with the already harsh frequency limitations!) An arbitrary filesize limit that can absolutely get in the way of your ability to do stuff with those already harsh limitations. I'm not asking for more channels. I'm not asking to use higher frequencies. I'm not asking to use full stereo. We have S3XMODIT after all. No, I'm just asking for a more fair filesize limit.
AmigaMOD needs a new format. I previously conveyed to puke7 (the 7 is now a salute whenever I say it) the fact that the Amiga has multiple models. The current AmigaMOD format is based on the A500's chip RAM limit according to this forum post discussing the upgrade from 64 KB to 256 KB: https://battleofthebits.com/academy/GroupThread/11893/
It's fine for most modules, but it can be a pain if you're working with larger samples.
I propose we create a new Amiga format for the later 1990 model known as the A3000, which had 2 MB of Chip RAM out of the box. 2MB is more than enough to take advantadge of the full 880 KB floppy drive space on the Amiga. In that space, we could even include the additional channel mode (up to 32 with hardware mixing) available in the MOD format.
Additionally, the 64 KB limit could be an Amiga-Classic format for the A1000, or the first Amiga model, which only had 256 KB of RAM, and if you include the RAM ProTracker uses, it's probably about that much left.
So to review, I'm suggesting 3 formats:
1. Amiga-Classic (64KB and 4 channels)
2. Amiga (the current AmigaMOD format)
3. Amiga-Expanded (880 KB with the extended channel limits)
Alternatively, we can upgrade the current Amiga limit to 440 KB (one side of an Amiga floppy) to put it in line with other format upload limits (see post #4).
I'll duplicate my new stance and argument on this issue below, edited for clarity and brevity:
The filesize limit is still too small. Even after the bump it received:
https://battleofthebits.com/academy/GroupThread/11893/
Consider for a moment the function of a filesize limit in every other format. It's not supposed to be easy to hit. Consider for a minute the amount of times your samples get to 8 MB in s3xmod, or 1024 KB in nsf-plus, or even 1MB in midi. The function of the upload limit isn't that of an additional limitation; it's a measure to make sure you're not completely breaking things. NES games didn't often have 1024 KB to work with. If they had that much, they were pushing the limits. You don't need 8MB to store quality samples and you don't need 1MB to theoretically make a good midi. The Amiga is capable of more, especially in the later models. And as it currently stands, it is absolutely a bottleneck and a pain to work with. You can't always get good quality out of 256 KB (especially with the already harsh frequency limitations!) An arbitrary filesize limit that can absolutely get in the way of your ability to do stuff with those already harsh limitations. I'm not asking for more channels. I'm not asking to use higher frequencies. I'm not asking to use full stereo. We have S3XMODIT after all. No, I'm just asking for a more fair filesize limit.
It's fine for most modules, but it can be a pain if you're working with larger samples.
I propose we create a new Amiga format for the later 1990 model known as the A3000, which had 2 MB of Chip RAM out of the box. 2MB is more than enough to take advantadge of the full 880 KB floppy drive space on the Amiga. In that space, we could even include the additional channel mode (up to 32 with hardware mixing) available in the MOD format.
Additionally, the 64 KB limit could be an Amiga-Classic format for the A1000, or the first Amiga model, which only had 256 KB of RAM, and if you include the RAM ProTracker uses, it's probably about that much left.
So to review, I'm suggesting 3 formats:
1. Amiga-Classic (64KB and 4 channels)
2. Amiga (the current AmigaMOD format)
3. Amiga-Expanded (880 KB with the extended channel limits)
Alternatively, we can upgrade the current Amiga limit to 440 KB (one side of an Amiga floppy) to put it in line with other format upload limits (see post #4).