Uh... so I don't know how to explain this to someone who doesn't already know what a modular synth is. ...uh .... not sure how helpful this video is xD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex36kK8YpQo

I'm pretty sure some people are going to submit whatever they want to the allgear format BUT PLEASE DON'T! :D

Also I need vorting categories!

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CDZMkO7nwm_/

Ambiance
Girth
Modularity
Squelch
Route In Pants

yay

Question: Effects stacking and such, mixing etc, I would guess that is allowed?

can i use other instruments as well? i have a monologue and a volca beats which i like to use in combination with my modular so i'd love to use those!

the cover art is great btw

I would assume that the synth is only modular, else it would just be another typical allgear compo. but I'm still not sure about if you are allowed to have an effect setup.

Bleep Bloops
Patching
Convolution
Wet Farts
Wallet Out Of Pants

I don't want to declare a bunch of dumb rules about what is allowed and what is not. I just don't want people doing whatever they feel like in a daw. So, in my head, I came up with a general rule of thumb:

If you can figure out how to do it in VCV rack then it is allowed.

Saying you can only use loopy sequencers isn't right (someone cries nerdseq or similar). Saying you have to make a generative experience isn't right (what about them loopy sequencers?). Saying you can't use whatever synth or drum machine gets into a gray area (especially since sampler modules are a thing). I own several mixer modules, but limited effects. But the thing about modular is you can patch whatever you want into whatever you want (tho I wouldn't recommend directly patching eurorack level audio into traditional instrument gear [YOU MIGHT RELEASE THE MAGIC SMOKE!!]).

If you have a way to introduce external gear into your modular system (VCV or physical), the only limitation I'd hold is that signal must terminate in the final mix the same as everything else within the modular ecosystem.

For example: I could patch my Gameboy with LSDJ into my modular system with a preamp and then it goes through the a delay module in my rack and ends at the mixer module with my drum modules and droning VCO module that are also in the mix.

quick question: is there a community consensus on whether or not VCV rack patches should be self-playing?

i.e. should VCV rack patches that require manual input to perform be submitted to VCV rack or allgear?

i saw both. i think its fine if u share a "how2setup" in the description(?)

yeah this is an important question, though from what I remember most of the vcv rack major entries were self-playing and I try to stick to self-playing entries when submitting to vcvrack format mostly so that people can play it back fine. but some of my allgear stuff is vcv rack + manual input.

imo since vcvrack format entries are .vcv, playback is important so I'd say that self-playing entries would be necessary here. but because allgear will also feature actual hardware modular stuff, and tweaking is generally a part of a lot of hardware modular recordings, then I'd say that tweaking should be acceptable in vcv rack for the allgear format (and also because the only playback option you have is mp3).

I would've used MAGIC SMOKE as one of the voting cats but I didn't think that meme was that widely known.

imo effect pedals are just external modules

i remember this entry -> https://battleofthebits.com/arena/Entry/Nightly+Atmospheres/31087/

pumpuli: "The mp3 is a near 10min recording of me twiddling a couple knobs, with the beginning fade-in being just raising the mixer volumes and whatnot."

and noone complained, it even won the gold.

but yea whatever, selfplaying might still be better

I personally would prefer it if, like argarak said, the vcv rack entries are self-playing and think the allgear entries could be whatever. It's really cool to open someone else's vcv entry and try to reverse engineer / understand how they got there.

[This n00b ashamed of what written. - BotB]

on VCV entries being self-playing, I've previously submitted entries that are self-playing after some manual input after loading the file. Some vcv modules don't remember all their settings or don't allow triggers to be sent into them easily, so it's easier to just write a initial setup-guide into the description of the entry.

Also, when voting vcv entries I've usually ended up fiddling around with knobs and stuff to see what the patch can do anyhow, provided I can easily follow the signal paths and understand the patch.

Self-playing stuff is the main focus imo, but modular synthesis is inherently hands-on and malleable even when you're handed a patch by someone else.


On allgear stuff, I feel like the 'whatever you can do in VCV is ok', be it done with actual modular or VCV itself.

I appreciate that approach, also in relation to spring chip where you get to get your hands dirty and play with the modules to see what makes 'em tick. That does play a part in an entries vote: the module itself.

Alrite, to the Soldering iron bench, who wants to hear, the hear all playlist in 3 weeks lol

Watch out kleeder n strobe are working on bailing hay to pay for a jk flip flop circuit module

I myself am planning on ordering some modules from http://musicfromouterspace.com/

check out all these circuits on their catalog https://shop.musicfromouterspace.com/cart/

question: i don't use vcvrack, but i have a modular synth vst called Voltage- is it fine to use that and submit to the allgear category?

Are we allow to use a virtual style module synthesizer like DS-10 series?

I use the DSN-12.

its 12 virtual ms-10 synthesizers with 12 virtual kaoss pads, and a pattern bank mixer for live play.

Or even better I can use korg gadget switch that allows me to show 4 ms-10 style synths on the screen. I can control the knob and wires with motion controls.

voltage modular standalone program has the exact same workflow as vcv rack. korg ds stuff is further off but you could probably do something similar in vcv rack.

well guess there goes my excuse to not learn vcvrack :p

i wanna try making as modular as a performace can be using one synth and a pocket operator along with guitar pedals, can i do that?

the two synths would be synced using patch cables

@xenorocket you can do whatever you want, but be advised that voters will vote however they please and admins tend to behave how they see fit.

i'm gonna sit this one out until next year its so cold out now my closest friends with gear like that are in the city and i don't wanna go walk around down in th ecity. Now this make s me want to do that lol. Those links to the mfos-gear tho are good that i posted... i really want to try build somthing using thos circuit kits like a cv keyboard controller and a couple oscillators, and a filter that would be nice

"Wallet out of Pants" hahahaha

here are my Voting Category suggestions:

rack of hearts
neuronal connection
wiring
voltage control
out in pants (coz can't afford synth + clothes)

rack rash

voltage control

banana cabling

oscillations

1/8" in pants

hmmm have we time for extendong or nay to extenderino?

thank you for the extension, had a rough week, but hopefully I can record something after all?!

Also:
Price
Current draw
Width
No. of modules
Mutable Instruments Pants

€dit:
Y'know, I'm not feeling it this time and I'm unsure about uploading old stuff, so I think I'm gonna pass.

Avatarcore, #botbcore, #grumskikore

Some good modular soldering tips are to ground everything together that is battery powered and ground everything together that is adapter powered by grounding the units together that is when they interact

Lead free solder is good for everything but space travel. So literally you have to remember that lead free solder doesnt always hold up in space. It branches little threads out of its solder joits snd malfunctions

Euclectic solder remains a natural choice for space travel

Synthesis and smt of course lead-free pace station is the way to go. Pc computers are modular in nature and when they are equpped as midi controllers one best comply

The best part about this battle is everyone who shared pics of their set ups.

The worst part about this battle is how much better the virtual entries sound probably because they can afford to sound better $$$

Average Score: 24.661

@kleeder talking about score, how can we find the worst score ever here at botb? was it from me?

@nitro, with penalties scores can be negative, so there's no chance you made the worst score (yet) the key is to submit late, don't give up!

ah, blinking lights and spending money. dont forget the reason for teh season!